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 Post subject: Burton Albion v Sunderland AFC Sat 25/11/17 15:00
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https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2017/11/24/16694860/can-we-the-sunderland-fans-become-the-twelfth-man-once-again

Can we, the Sunderland fans, become the twelfth man once again?
It’s been a long, hard slog downhill for the Sunderland faithful, and no one would blame you for being tired. But more than ever, we cannot fail now.



When it comes to the topic of football support and how pivotal it can be to the success of a club, a lot can be said for Unity. In the case of Sunderland AFC, a lot has been said.

I haven't been the most complimentary of critics when it comes to the club's public relations campaigns. I did – and still do – question the absurdity of trying to manipulate the Wearside faithful with slogans and kindly reminders of their heritage in the pursuit of shirt sales - I found it all to be just so much rhetoric.

When results aren't coming and big, ugly decisions are being made at executive level that don't appear to benefit the club in any way, you can't help but feel a little disillusioned, apprehensive even.

But for all of that, it can at least be said that on some base level they were right. Because not only are “unity” and “togetherness” powerful and emotive tools for the wordsmiths among us, they are in fact absolutely necessary ideals, and they have driven far greater things than a football club to success during the long history of our society. But speaking specifically as we are about football, and this football club, I believe it's time to once again bring those ideals to the forefront of our minds.
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Granted, since the departure of Simon Grayson it would be unfunny to suggest that we've somehow improved. Performances under caretaker manager and academy coaching veteran Robbie Stockdale have hardly set the league alight, though it's by no means an indicator of his true ability in management.

Giving the squad to a caretaker and expecting success is like trusting a sandwich artist to run the kitchen of a Michelin rated restaurant. Of course, I'm sure no one at executive level expected Stockdale to turn the season on it's head, but you'll agree that we all breathed a slight sigh of relief when it was revealed it wouldn't be someone of his relative inexperience and anonymity in the game taking control of the team long term.

For my part I was convinced it would be an appointment like that, that we would finally succumb to the self-inflicted fallout of piss-poor fiscal management over half a decade, and admit that we couldn't afford to hire a decent manager even if we took Rodwell back to whatever prototype crash dummy factory he was forged in and demanded a refund. I didn't allow myself to believe for even a moment that we would be able to improve upon another journeyman in Grayson.

Consider that for a moment: two and a half years on £750k a year is more than our transfer spend in a window that saw us preparing for our toughest challenge of recent years - just conceive of that for a second. The reason we spent so little during that window is because we had no money to spend any more, so it stands to reason that this appointment has almost certainly been made at the discretion of the owner and, in a very real sense, almost directly out of his own pocket.

I suppose for that we should perhaps doff our caps to the owner, somewhat begrudgingly. In spite of what seemed to be clear attempts to distance himself from the club as we spiralled out of control, the interview he shared with us some weeks ago seems to have been just one stage in a plan to throw those dice one last time.

With the acquisition of an accomplished and respected manager in the shape of Chris Coleman, Ellis Short has gone some way to proving his doubters (myself included) wrong. We'll see what the future holds there but at least there is a glimmer of hope, and a demonstration of pure intentions from the man we had begun to believe was abandoning us to a fate he failed to avert.

Back to my point; unity, and being told to “unify”. Telling someone to be “united” is like telling someone to fall in love – it's an impossible demand and is unfair by it's very nature. Not only that, but the demand itself is then made all the more absurd for the fact that the one giving you the order is the one that you struggle hardest to relate to, and they to you.

When the cause of your angst demands you pull yourself together and follow their lead, it is in your nature to rebel and say 'no'.

And so when Sunderland AFC turned to a fan base they had unwittingly conspired to divide and ordered them to piece themselves back together off the back of a few cheap words, they were rightly told where to go.

Some of the less informed amongst the media and punditry that attacked Sunderland's fans for their righteous ire are of course ignorant to the trials and tribulations of the average Sunderland fan. On paper, everything can be blown out of proportion and very often that's exactly the purpose of tabloid journalism. The truth that is hidden to these men and women of that ilk, those that blindfold themselves in their quest for a bit of cash and a quick audience, is that Sunderland remain some of the most unassuming, patient and resilient fans in the footballing world.

There are very few bases expected to accept scandal after humiliation after embarrassment after scandal, and still pay their direct debit for a season ticket. Yet Sunderland fans do. After all, it's been said that there is a thin line between love and hate, so similar are they in focus and magnitude. It's rare that you become so angry with something you don't care about, that you storm away from it when it effects you.

I personally think that we all still believe, even through these torrid times, in unity.

We all still feel united. Not through any slogan or wishy-washy photo op, but by the sheer fact that this is our reality, as fans. No true fan can throw down their allegiance to their club, and so it was always impossible for any fan to walk away. That they protest by refusing to pay to support a regime they disagree with, and that they are loath to spend their indispensable money on traipsing to the home of a consistently poor team, is only indicative of their passion and love for the club.

Consider the scene now: consider for a moment our new manager – a man of some repute, but without the burden of recent failures and intense media persecution that weighed down David Moyes (and arguably burdens him still). This time is so crucial for the club that it cannot be understated. Our future as fans teeters on the edge of a razor edge and Sunderland AFC as a club stands before a chasm with the winds of destiny raging all around. You can only take so many punches before you eventually go down.

Another wrong turn and this great institution will fall. It will sink into a mire, into a financial quicksand that will keep us trapped for an age before we ever come up for air again.

Make no mistake – what happens at Sunderland over the next 18 months will define the way we follow them in the years to come.

Chris Coleman has been chosen as the man to arrest our fall and lead us forward. This is the Eleventh Hour, make no mistake, and cometh the hour, cometh the man.

For all that Sunderland AFC have hurt us in the years gone by, for all the humiliation and indignities we've suffered as true fans, now is the last chance we have to join our voices to the throng and become the twelfth man on the pitch.

There is no cavalry coming to save us, there is no huge injection of funds, nor is there a masterful tactic that will see us storm through the remainder of the season unchallenged.

We push forward as we are or we get left behind.

Sunderland AFC now stands or falls, and if you had given up on them or given up hope that we have a future to look forward to, I would beg you to stand with them.


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 Post subject: Re: Burton Albion v Sunderland AFC Sat 25/11/17 15:00
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http://salutsunderland.com/2017/11/the-first-time-ever-i-saw-your-ground-burton-albion-and-the-pirelli-stadium/

The usual look ahead from Salut Sunderland.


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 Post subject: Re: Burton Albion v Sunderland AFC Sat 25/11/17 15:00
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https://www.safc.com/news/team-news/2017/november/burton-albion-press-conference

C.C.'s video press conference.


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 Post subject: Re: Burton Albion v Sunderland AFC Sat 25/11/17 15:00
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42034683

Burton Albion winger Lloyd Dyer is a doubt because of a hamstring problem.

Defender John Brayford also has a hamstring injury and is unlikely to play, while on-loan striker Joe Mason (back) is nearing a return.

Sunderland are without forward Duncan Watmore, who will miss the rest of the season after having surgery on a cruciate knee ligament injury.

Midfielders Didier N'Dong (knee) and Jonny Williams (shoulder) are out, as is defender Marc Wilson (calf).

But new manager Chris Coleman is able to include Lee Cattermole, who was suspended for Tuesday's defeat by Aston Villa.

SAM's prediction
Home win 33% Draw 28% Away win 39%

SAM, the Sports Analytics Machine, is a super-computer built by @ProfIanMcHale of the University of Liverpool.

Match facts

  • This is the first-ever meeting between the teams in any competition.
  • Burton Albion are the first team Sunderland have faced for the first time in a league match since they played Colchester United in November 2006, winning 3-1 in a Championship fixture.
  • The Brewers have won just one of their past 10 Championship matches (D3 L6), failing to score in five of those fixtures.
  • This is Sunderland's lowest points tally (11) from the opening 18 matches of a league season since 2005-06 (six), a season that ended in relegation from the Premier League for the Black Cats.
  • Lewis Grabban has netted 43.5% of Sunderland's 23 Championship goals so far this season (10 goals).
  • Sunderland are the only side in the Championship yet to keep a clean sheet this season - this is only the second time in their history that the Black Cats have failed to keep a clean sheet in their first 18 league games of the season, the last time being in 1953-54.


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Won one in last ten and failed to score in five - we'll never have a better chance. Haway The Lads!



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 Post subject: Re: Burton Albion v Sunderland AFC Sat 25/11/17 15:00
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Won one in last ten and failed to score in five - we'll never have a better chance. Haway The Lads!

Compared to our record that's not bad :lol: . At least we score more though ;) .


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 Post subject: Re: Burton Albion v Sunderland AFC Sat 25/11/17 15:00
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Lets say quietly confident of a victory, would like a clean sheet but not yet confident of that so I go for a 1-2 away win. After that when Daibos boys come up to our place another victory.


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 Post subject: Re: Burton Albion v Sunderland AFC Sat 25/11/17 15:00
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Tufty wrote:
Lets say quietly confident of a victory, would like a clean sheet but not yet confident of that so I go for a 1-2 away win. After that when Daibos boys come up to our place another victory.



Would make a substantial difference to our position - and more importantly, mindset :)



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We looked more - not organised as such, but we looked as though we might know what we are doing - on Tuesday evening. After a few more days with the man, we might look just a little bit better again and I think that 1st win might open the floodgates a bit, as confidence starts to kick in.


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https://www.safc.com/news/team-news/2017/november/match-preview-burton-v-sunderland

Sunderland will head to the Midlands for the second time in a week on Saturday when they visit the Pirelli Stadium, KO 3pm.

REWIND

Chris Coleman took charge of his first match on Tuesday evening when the Black Cats visited Villa Park. Unfortunately, the Welshman was dealt a blow ahead of kick-off and was forced to name a much-changed side as he was without 10 first-team faces. The Black Cats produced a gritty display in the West Midlands, but were once again left ruing sluggish defending when Albert Adomah poked home on 10 minutes following a cross from the right. Lady luck was then on Villa’s side at the start of the second 45, when Josh Onomah’s strike from range took look a hefty deflection off Ty Browning, leaving Robbin Ruiter rooted to the ground as the ball ended up in the back of the net. Lewis Grabban halved the deficit late on, notching his 10th goal of the season, but the damage was done, and Coleman’s tenure started in defeat.

THE TASK IN HAND


While Sunderland returned to Wearside without any points, the task that lies ahead for Coleman and his side remains the same. Burton Albion was always going to be an important match, and Coleman was quick to ramp the heat up on his team in his press conference on Thursday. Coleman is keen for his team to turn a corner quickly and ignite a run of form to put to bed their current run of just one win in 18 league matches. The Brewers, meanwhile, have lost their last five matches on home soil and have won just two league games since September. Three points on Saturday for both sides will be crucial.

MORE WOES FOR WATMORE

Duncan Watmore is expected to miss the remainder of the season after undergoing knee surgery. The news comes as a bitter blow for the 22-year-old who missed the last six months of the 2016-17 season, as well as the start of the current campaign, while recovering from the first injury which he picked up in December 2016. After returning against Preston North End in September, Watmore featured regularly under Simon Grayson and re-established himself as a key member of the first-team squad, but once again his involvement has been curtailed by a cruel twist of fate after limping off last Saturday against Millwall.

DUO RETURN

Paddy McNair will be available for selection when Sunderland travel to Burton Albion but Didier Ndong will miss up to three weeks due to a knee injury. Both missed the midweek trip to Aston Villa with Ndong also missing last weekend’s stalemate against Millwall, with the Gabon international taking time away from the club due to personal reasons. Marc Wilson will also miss out due to a calf problem, but Lee Cattermole is available again after serving a one-match ban

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If you’re unable to attend the game, we have comprehensive coverage of all the action as it happens across our digital channels.

Nick Barnes and Gary Bennett will be in the commentary booth from 1.30pm, with minute-by-minute analysis available right here and across social media from Twitter to Instagram.


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WD! ;-)



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Les Miserable wrote:
WD! ;-)



We have had at least 40 of them so far this year. 8-)


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Hakuna Matata wrote:
Les Miserable wrote:
WD! ;-)



We have had at least 40 of them so far this year. 8-)


I was right then? 8-)



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Les Miserable wrote:
Hakuna Matata wrote:
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WD! ;-)



We have had at least 40 of them so far this year. 8-)


I was right then? 8-)


Keep up the good work LM - at last it seems to be working :)



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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42034683

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James Vaughan scored his second goal for Sunderland (having his first rush of blood to his head today.)

Sunderland scored two late goals to beat Burton and give Chris Coleman his first win as Black Cats manager.

James Vaughan opened the scoring with a header in the 85th minute from Bryan Oviedo's cross before George Honeyman's finish sealed the points.

Brewers goalkeeper Stephen Bywater had earlier denied Lewis Grabban with a fine save.

Burton's best chance fell to Marvin Sordell in the first half but he fired wide and they slip to 23rd.

Sunderland, who won for the first time since 13 August, moved off the bottom of the Championship table with victory.

They had enjoyed the better of the chances prior to taking the lead, with Aiden McGeady going close to giving them a first-half advantage.

Coleman had said after Tuesday's defeat by Aston Villa that he had "seen something to work with" and he will be relieved to have ended the club's long wait for a win so soon into his tenure.

Burton, who have won just twice at home all season, travel to local rivals Derby next week.

Burton boss Nigel Clough:

"We missed our situations and chances in the first half to go ahead. It might have been a different game then.

"We were on top for the first 45 minutes and you have got to make that count. Even teams that are below you in the league, with the quality that they have will hurt you in the second half as they did."

Sunderland manager Chris Coleman:


"In the position we are in you don't care where wins come from. They have got to come and come frequently and consistently so it's a good start and a base for us.

"I have told the players to enjoy it and milk it for 24 hours because we are used to walking out of a dressing room feeling depressed and feeling down because we haven't got what we wanted, hence my reaction with the supporters after the game."

Burton


1 Bywater
10 Akins
15 Naylor
6 Turner
12 Flanagan
9 Scannell Substituted for Allen at 65'minutes
7 Murphy
19 Palmer
18 Miller Substituted for Mason at 58'minutes
26 Sbarra Substituted for McFadzean at 71'minutes
17 Sordell

Substitutes

3 Warnock
4 Allen
5 McFadzean
8 Lund
13 Ripley
16 Varney
20 Mason

Sunderland

25 Ruiter
21 Matthews
18 Browning
16 O'Shea Booked at 66mins
3 Oviedo
6 Cattermole
13 McManaman Substituted for Asoro at 80'minutes
26 Honeyman Booked at 49mins
4 McNair Substituted for Gibson at 70 'minutes
19 McGeady Substituted for Vaughan at 75'minute sBooked at 85mins
11 Grabban

Substitutes


1 Steele
9 Vaughan
15 Galloway
22 Love
24 Gibson
27 Gooch
29 Asoro

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So this is what a win feels like.

Marvellous

Mighty Burton Albion away as well


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Going by the time you posted HM you were obviously too excited to sleep!

So long since we won, can we now cut short the winless run at home?



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Going by the time you posted HM you were obviously too excited to sleep!

So long since we won, can we now cut short the winless run at home?

Sorry Daibo, but we hope your boys take a beating next week.


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Tufty wrote:
Sheep farmer wrote:
Going by the time you posted HM you were obviously too excited to sleep!

So long since we won, can we now cut short the winless run at home?

Sorry Daibo, but we hope your boys take a beating next week.



I'd settle for 1-0.


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